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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Turning the page on a new day

Who is still fighting? Are you reading my latest posts? It's over man, lighten up. You can stop with the insults and personal attacks (obama won).

Other people's opinions are not "false information" "slogans" and "lying talking points", I liked that you threw in "clinging" as well, speaking of taling points and freudian slips. This is what people do when they cannot refute another person, they disregard their position altogether, that sucks and you know it.

Just like I told your partner in crime, I am done. I won't debate or engage in conversation with anyone who invalidates the other person's views and opinions, especially when they use more propaganda than me but seem to think the other person has no basis in fact at all. It's pointless.

I am only saying this so that you know why I am not engaging and don't think you have power enough to drive me away or silence another citizen for your own personal gain of cyber power ( I ran on a bit with that as a joke in a way, stop taking things so seriously, jesus)

Whatever happened to you that made you that jaded against half the country won't let you even reason with me, for that you have my sympathy. I hope you can one day learn that things are not always 100% one way. Have I ever said "there was WMD"? No. Have I ever said "bush does not talk like a moron sometimes"? No. Did he AND the congress AND wallstreet AND the borrowers AND the realtors AND the lenders act irresponsively and allow the crash on wall street? YES. Can you admit to anything that you or your side has done wrong? I think everyone here will agree that's a big NO.

I won't argue politics with you, I won't even read your posts anymore because I feel you don't really read mine, which is what I should have done in the beginnning and none of this would have happened. That is me admitting fault again and I don't want you to be confused and think it's some trolling tactic or whatever you people think I am up to. Shit, I can't figure out where the hell some of you are coming from honestly, but I won't initate attacks on you for having an opinion, that's idiotic. Blame monte for starting this whole thing, but even he is fairly nice to others that disagree (even if he was a bit harsh on the subjects of his posts, oh well freedom of speech had it's quirks).

If I heard one person say, "poor people need more help" it would have carried a hell of lot more meaning than personal attacks, wild unfounded accusations and popular conspiracy theories from rage against the machine lyric inserts. Stick to the facts and people won't walk away from you during disagreements.

Ever think of taking a position that the other side would be receptive to? Try appealing to common interests and beliefs? You should try it some time, it would work a lot better than just calling people names and ignoring evidence from the other side, shit even the most morally bankrupt defense attorny examines the evidence the prosecution provides, they defend their client under the constitution and try to exclude evidence, but at least they fucking look it at.

Next time try "my family needs healthcare" instead of "bush is hitler" or "I think church should be seperated from state" instead of calling religious people retards (I would have not even argued over that one to be honest...) and before you go off on me, no I don't remember who exactly said what and I don't care. I know 3 or 4 of you have just been relentless in dismissing anything that anyone said that was counter to your opinion.

Just food for thought from a gracious loser who won't whine or complain like a 3 year old who didn't get what he wanted for winter solstice. I hope this country does turn around and believe either cadidate would have changed things, we'll see whose change is better shortly. Either way, I don't care anymore, there is nothing more I can do for my country except join the army and if I don't find another job soon I just might... doesn't look like it will be as risky, hope they take me this time, my credit score is even worse than the last two times I was turned down by recruiters because of my debt to income ratio of all things.

That's all I have to say and I hope you read this far, I know it's not fun.

To all those that stayed out of all this, HOW THE FUCK DID YOU DO IT? I envy you.

For those like bluedevil that knew when a joke was a joke and when to laugh at yourself and be objective and acknowledge someone who disagrees with you, you are true blue man and are good people.

For those like william tell who probably disagree with me strongly on things but managed to carry themselves better than I ever could, thanks, we all wish more people we disagreed with were like you... well maybe not all of us.

For those that were just combative and disputatious for the sake of pissing others off or having blind faith in anything I quote ducats in closing.

blow me

Someone please remind me of this post in 2012 and speaking of 2012:

http://www.archive.org/details/twentytwelve

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Fidelity indeed...

Another great image I have vis-a-vis our little family here is from that the great movie with John Cusack (if you like him, you love it, if not...don't bother).

Instead of the bar scene with Grendal and Earl, I can see the music store scene since there's room for more (sorry DEADHOOK!?!):

Cash register defence scene, Take 3.

Cusack: played by BD.
Jack Black: played by Rob.
Little guy behind the register: played by NC.

In walks somebody from DEADHOOK with a lecture to BD about being nice, not upsetting anyone anymore, NO politics, blah, blah, blah.

Next thing you know, BD is ranting, Rob is advancing with menace, and suddenly NC smashes the Hooker in the face with the phone...

Only works if you know the movie.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Fidelity indeed...

Hey, I'm in if I get my scenes with Lisa Bonet and a past with Catherine Keener

Tim Robbins cracks me up in that film.

True story: I was the Head of Strategic Command for Kathleen Turner Overdrive (KTO); in other words, short stint managing/assisting the band in Atlanta before moved to Prague. Features two of my old high school buddies Ray and Tim (drove Tim to buy his first bass; he is in drivin n cryin with Kevn Kinney, who does a lot of stuff with Warren, Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith), and Todd Snider. That's the name that Jack Black says his band was going to be in final scene of film - KTO's 15 minutes of fame.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Fidelity indeed...

Whoa! Very cool; yeah, I love Black in that movie...his delievery on lines is amazing..

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: High Fidelity indeed...

This is the scene I love from that movie. I mean how many times have you wanted to feed someone their fricking Belle and Sebastian tape? Who wants that sad bastard music anyhow?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yVv5sIY57TA

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

So this is you not engaging. Okay.

Sorry, but there is no way I am reading all of that. My point was that there are such things as objective, verifiable facts, which are not subject to "differences of opinion." One example is the completely bogus document you posted, claiming it was an analysis of the candidates tax plans. It wasn't, but you continued to cite it even after that fact were established. In that same post, you claimed that you check all of your sources, which is clearly also not true. Not only did you not check your sources, you stood by your fake document even after being told it was fake.

There is a reason that you personally are unable to have a civil disagreement with anyone on here. It is your fundamental intellectual dishonesty: it's because you ignore evidence in favor of your own emotional response. How did a conservative like yourself ever become such an equivicator, anyway? I thought that we were supposed to be the big relativists, but you shame us all with your insistence that the facts are subjective when you want them be.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 8, 2008 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: unplugging the brainbox

I truly hope you are kidding or are trying to get me to react, either way it's not going to work. The stuff I posted had links to back it up, some from CNN, hardly a neocon spun source, that's if we are talking about the same thing... as I said a dozen times, I am done arguing about politics and proving who's opinion is fact and who's facts are opinion, but I guess a few hundred more youtube links are required to get that across, so be it.

No more run on sentences or too large to read posts. You win, is that what you want to hear? I want to hear this:

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=16369

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 8, 2008 6:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

I hold NC, BD, WT, Earl, Rob's (and a few others)articulate arguments/observations in high regard. I fly by the seat of my pants, not even as remotely educated as the above forumites - on my positions.
I read more into the messenger than the messege. Charactor, honesty and kindness play a big part for me. And I'm personally working on all 3, haha.
Like it or not, my choice LOST. Well, before Perot, I'd never bothered to vote except for the old California pot legalization Inititive. (late 70's?)
Except for 1 Bushie, all my choices for prez have LOST(heh)
Think it went Nader-Perot-Nader-Bush-McCain (think i skipped the 2000 one, a lib friend got me too toasted to vote-his civic duty-haha)
This years Rep nominees were woeful, I basically voted against Obama. It's a new day, i hope "change" get's people OFF the govt dole. If you pray, pray for our leaders in this troubled times. Light up for peace!

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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 8, 2008 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

>>> I basically voted against Obama. It's a new day, i hope "change" get's people OFF the govt dole. If you pray, pray for our leaders in this troubled times. Light up for peace!>>>>

And keep it on.

Yes, let's hope the biggest leeches get OFF the dole. Of course that would be the arms dealers and the finance sector, since everything pales next to their take. The finance guys took $1.4 Trillion just last month!

This post was modified by spacedface on 2008-11-08 17:26:37

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 8, 2008 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

I agree...REFORM!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 8, 2008 10:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: snuff songs

Well instead of saying "you're right.... BUT" to get a jab in, i'll just say "agreed". Fraud, corruption and perpetual reliance on goverment are all bad. I am not educated enough, that is why I am going back to college so I can get a less stessful job and do more of this:

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=61943

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 8, 2008 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: do the funky cloud!

?? is this how you make your clouds?
"wanna do a cloud?" 370degeez baby!

This post was modified by rastamon on 2008-11-08 19:54:35

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 8, 2008 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: do the funky cloud!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8203670467452960127

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 12, 2008 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: do the funky cloud!

I'm impressed by the price and that you can get the exact temp. It's not ez juggling a large heat gun...I paid + $300
for my setup 2yrs ago at the club. I'll also have to check for one you can walk (float-haha) around with

http://www.gotvape.com/store/vapir_air_one3_vaporizer.php

Beats the hell out of taking 2-3 precription meds, or opiates...no stone throwing please!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 12, 2008 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: do the funky cloud!

I paid a bit too much at the shop on a whim, only cost me $30 more and I got to take it out and "fire" it up to make sure it worked. There is a rechargable one but most ametuers are defeating the purpose if they are igniting materials over a certain temp and making smoke (see youtube for smoke filled bags). If you are seeing smoke, it's burning and you could do that a lot cheaper without one. Hell I was throwing away spent herbal blends after vaping them until one day I realized they are still good, albeit not as tasty or smooth, but I recycled several months worth and you can make pastries and liqours down the road. I was not here.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

NC >>>...I am done. I won't debate or engage...
I am only saying this so that you know >>>

You've said thaT SEVERAL times before. You don't stick to topics or facts, which is classic troll behavior.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Turning the page on a new day

http://www.archive.org/details/dontfeedthetrolls